Ok, now let's look at what the Enterprise can do. A) Shoot it with phasers or a photon torpedo. Oh no! You've ruined the new paint job on my Death Star! The Death Star is so huge, that the Enterprise could blast at it all day and still not do anything significant to it. B) Run away. Yes, they could do that. They better do that if they want to live.
BRIAN: Oh, sure, Steve, it's really that obvious. You're forgetting the one asset the Enterprise has that the Death Star does not: transporters. Once Kirk, Spock, Bones, Uhura, and that nameless guy with the red shirt beam aboard, the Death Star will have a major permanent power outage and the Enterprise crew will walk away with only one casualty. All they have to do is get into transporter range. That is, get past the mighty planet disintegrater gun and the swarms of tie-fighters and it's cake. O.K., say the disintegrater gun is mis-firing that day, and all they have to do is get past the tie-fighters. The Enterprise. The ship that almost loses to 3 klingon warships must get past 100 tie-fighters. The ship that whenever it gets in trouble tries to open a hailing frequency. O.K., maybe not.
HA! But what you're really forgetting is that the Death Star, as shown in Episode IV, has a weak spot: All the Enterprise has to do is get close enough to fire a photon torpedo down that hole the size of a whomp-rat and the Death Star goes kablooie. So once the Enterprise gets close enough-...oh, yeah, I've already been over this. I don't think the Enterprise would even fit in those canyons on the surface anyway. O.K.: Scotty and Spock equip the Galileo shuttle craft with shields and photon torpedos. Maybe not.
You're right, Steve. Death Star in 2.3 seconds.
STEVE: Indeed, things would have to be going bad for the Death Star to succumb to the Enterprise. Here's a possible scenario under which it might happen: 1) All the Tie fighters had to be recalled due to unsafe plasma coils. 2) The night before the attack, all the weapons officers were up late celebrating "Death Star Day" and are hung over. 3) The garbage monster found it's way into a maintenance shaft and shorted out the transformers which power the main gun. 4) The Enterprise sling-shots around the sun, goes forward in time, gets the Genesis device, sling-shots back, and fires it on the Death Star. I think if these 4 improbable events occurred simultaneously, the Enterprise might stand a chance. Otherwise, forget it!
BRIAN: O.K., with all those concessions, the Enterprise could get close enough and would have a weapon powerful enough to destroy the Death Star considering all the arguments we have raised. But there's one other thing we haven't considered. What about the Force, Steve?
STEVE: Aw, shit. I forgot about the Force. Before Kirk can give the order to fire, Vader will have him two feet off the ground and choking to death. Death Star in 2.3 seconds.
One last point. What's going to win: Something called "The Enterprise" or something called "The Death Star?" The name says it all.
BRIAN: You know, Steve, after the past two weeks, that Godzilla/Bambi thing is looking more and more reasonable.
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-Jason
-David
Yep. Human ingenuity. Plus, Kirk doesn't breathe funny. They both talk funny, but that's another story. Hmm. Oh, and it's a real fight, so Kirk can't die. He has to die in some funky, pansy way, like stubbing his toe while fighting in another dimension...
-Greg
The Enterprise transporters would not be able to go through the Death Star's sheiding.
It seems like the Death Star would be at least 100x bigger than the Borg cube; and that was quite a battle. Anyways, the Empire had the resources an entire galaxy to build its abomination, while the Federation only controlled one quarter of the Sagittarius arm of our galaxy!
And if they don't speak in English on the Death Star, no one in our galaxy will be able to understand them! (Universal translator be dammed!)
The musical score for Star Wars is MUCH BETTER than Star Trek!
Now if the Federation would implement their phased cloak that Riker recovered on the Pheonix, the Federation could stand up to the Borg or the Empire!
-David
Kirk: Uhura, what the heck is--
Voop.
Silence.
On the bridge of the Death Star:
Random underpaid flunkie with black helmet: Did you see anything just now?
No reply.
-Massi
-Edward
By the time Scotty gets done rearranging the equipment, Lord Vader will already have Kirk's head on his mantle.
-Wakely
Scenario 1: The Enterprise warps into close proximity to the Death Star (with pilfered Klingon cloaking device). The Enterprise crew locates Vader's room and trans- ports in groups. First group, Sulu and Chekov. This is the primer group, their mission is to break down Vader's concentration so that he can not use the force. Sulu without shirt and sweaty, dances around Vader with sword in hand, taunting Vader, while Chekov runs around saying "Nuclear Wessel, Nuclear Wessel," pissing the hell out of Vader. Second group, Uhura, Spock, Kirk and Bones. With Vader's concentration down, he turns in disgust to Uhura and says "How can you keep putting that thing in your ear?" While he does this, Spock puts the nerve pinch on him. Kirk then mercilessly pummels the unconscious Vader, until Bones tells him that "he's dead Jim." The Death Star without leader falls in 10 minutes.
Scenario 2: The Enterprise transports a group of Tribbles (Those things that multiply a lot) to the Death Star. The Death Star explodes in a shower of Tribble/Storm Trooper debris.
Scenario 3: The Enterprise whips around the sun to the year 1994 and finds the Energizer Bunny, game over in 1 minute.
-Kendrick
COME ON NOW! If anyone needs to think longer than about a nanosecond on this one, they need their head examined. This battle will be over before Kirk realizes that it's begun. There are so many pluses going for the Death Star and so many negatives going for the Enterprise; let's compare the two: Death Star: Enterprise: Darth Vader (calm, controlled voice) James T. Kirk (e... nough... said...) The Force James T. Kirk... Thousands of expendable stormtroopers Never more than one sacrificial ensign Own gravitational force Artificial gravity within the ship Main gun (destroys entire planets) Photon torpedoes (aka laser-SCUD) Infinitely small weak point James T. Kirk... (don't get much bigger) Hundreds of attack craft (Tie fighters) Not even a lifeboat Huge support craft (Imperial Cruiser) Scotty's ever-expanding waist Shiny plastic suits and headgear Polyester as far as the eye can see Let's face facts: even IF (and it's a mighty huge IF) the Enterprise could somehow get past all of the Death Star's primary and secondary defences, all of Kirk's efforts up to that point would be wasted because the Enterprise would get jammed up tighter than a Winnebago(tm) in the LaBrea tarpits. The corridor leading the "whomp-rat" hole just barely allows passage of an X-wing fighter, a single pilot vehicle; the Enterprise would have as much success getting into the corridor as Milli-Vanilli have of winning another Grammy. Let the Enterprise try; it'll smash itself into a gajillion microscopic pieces on the Death Star's surface. Death Star in the blink of an eye. -HotBranch!
1 - The Kirk advanatage is nullified when James get close to the Death Star. Vader: "I feel the presence of an ego, the size of the Empire. Could it be my old master? No! Damn it, it's that Earthing scum Kirk. Hurry, prep the writers to shield all dialogue channels. Don't let him ask the computers any stupid, circular questions! LOCK UP THE WOMEN! Yes, even the fuzzy and inhuman ones!"
2 - Scotty - Face it. If Scotty saw that hunk of tech looming over him, he would turn to the dark side just to see its drive systems. Scotty : "Aye, Lord Vader, I think I may be able to squeeze a little more intimidation out of your voice unit. It will take some time, but you'll have it in time to meet the Emperor."
3 - The Prime Directive and other crap - This is the capper. Star Fleet can't blow its collective nose without analyzing its moral implications until inaction is the only available option.
4 - Imperial technology - Also a strike against the good guys. The TIE fighter can fly in ways that would make Newton spin in his grave fast enough to supplement the power generators onboard. Also, they are plenty and expendable.
5 - Imperial Stupidity - Ok, so they have a slight chance. They can pretend the ship is abandoned and sneak on the Base after it pulls it in. Kirk and Scotty would have wet dreams over a Star Destroyer that they could steal. McCoy would be happy (for once!) at having a Bacta tank and a medical droid. Imperial troops fall for all kinds of stupid gags. Spock could mind meld with Vader and learn a Logical (emotionally neutral) version of the Force. HMMM! Maybe if the crew had top billing...
6 - Dark Force tricks - Warp Core breeches are so easy to cause if you can move matter with a thought. Just a little motion here and there - BOOM! And you thought the little vent hole was a vunerability.
7 - The Death Star has sheilds! - No transporters. Yep. remember how they had to lower the shields and the tractor beam to escape?
8 - Photon Torps are too wide to hit the vunerable point on the Death Star. They are just too wide.
In short, the best defence the Enterprise has is the fact that the Death Star was destroyed "A long, long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away". Thank heaven for small favors.
-Judd M. Goswick
-David.
-Mike
- Randall
Sure, the Enterprise could send a team to the Death Star to disable it, but that wouldn't work:
Too many Storm Troopers, even though they are lousy shots, and Darth Vader. The entire Enterprise would have to beam over to wipe them out. I doubt that would work anyway, the phaser's wouldn't last that long, and when was the last time you saw the Star Trek gang in a shoot 'em up situation? Kirk was always hitting; Spock was always grabbing necks; and McCoy was always giving someone a shot. The Emperials wear armor guys! Ya wanna get close to one and pinch him? "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not a can opener!"
The Enterprise was more of an exploration ship than a war machine. They were to "Boldly go where no man has gone before," and not violate the prime directive. When faced with the Death Star they'd want to check it out, and would probably send a message to Star Fleet and wait for orders on what to do.
The Death Star was a war machine that was exploring. They were "Boldly going where ever they wanted to go," and didn't bother with a prime directive. They had one mission, conquer and/or destroy. They wouldn't bother the Emperor with a request for orders.
Joellyn C.
With the information gained from Princess Leia, the crew beams over to the Death Star and Kirk, using the P.A. system give a great speech about freedom, liberty, and justice that convinces all the Imperial stormtroopers to join the Federation. After beaming them all back, Kirk alone attempts to activate the Death Star's auto-destruct sequence. He successfully does so, and signals to beam back, only to find out the transporters are malfunctioning.
The countdown begins, and it looks like all is lost. Then we see a ship in the distance. Han Solo in the Millenium Falcon swoops down and snags Kirk off the antenna he's hanging from (don't ask me how he got there). He returns him to the Enterprise, the Death Star blows up, and all is well. Q appears, mumbles something about surving the test of humanity once again, and disappears in a blinding flash of light. The End.
- George
PS - A colleague of mine reading this just now remarks that what it all comes down to is that the E & crew are the "good guys" and therefore must win. Which is a little sideways to what I'm trying to say, but pretty close.
-Jody
For those of you who think the Enterprise would win simply because they are the 'good guys', please refer to my excellent and inciteful commentary on why Darth Vader would defeat Obi-wan (under WWWF History) before making your final decision - B
- Robert C.
-Hanspeter N.
- Gavin, DJ, Rick, Jen.
As we all know, protective headgear is essential to any risk-intensive endeavors (rock climbing, race car driving, space exploration, technological terrorizing, etc.). Once this fact is recognized, it becomes clear who would win.
First, we can count out the Enterprise, a ship manned by humans with woefully unprotected noggins. There they sit, hurtling through the vastness of space, with nary helmet amoung them! In fact, one nasty slip on the bridge could kill any of the ships officers! The Death Star could sit back and watch as Kirk and Co. tubled and fell into comas concussions, and the like.
On the opposite end of the "helmet spectrum", we find the Death Star, a ship jam-packed with helmet ensconed bad dudes! First, we have the storm troopers, with white helmets buffed to a high glossy shine. Second, we have Darth Vader-and his protective mask/life support system. Third, and most importantly, we have the special technical officers who gear up and fire the Death Star's destructive ray. These guys have the best helmets I've ever seen.
Obviously, these troopers needed to be protected from the harsh rays of the Death Star Cannon. All in all, you have helmets in every direction. Death Star wins-no contest. These guys are ready for action.
I have another theory about footwear, but I won't delve into that now.
- Derek Y.
Destruction of Death Star ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free recipe. Distribute freely. Ingredients: 1 Federation Starship, preferable U.S.S. Enterprise, NCC-1701 ("no bloody A, B, C, or D" --Scotty, TNG "Relics") 1 Working Transporter 1 Well-fed Tribble 1 Romulan cloaking device (stolen in "The Enterprise Incident") Directions: Install cloaking device on starship. Activate cloaking device. Pilot starship to Death Star and move within transporter range. Scan for food storage bays and feed coordinates into transporter. Place tribble on transporter pad. Energize. Wait for six hours. (May wish to have crew exchange humorous anecdotes concerning Kobayashi Maru test.) After tribbles have infested Death Star, de-cloak starship, lock on to exhaust port, and fire one photon torpedo. Move away at half-impulse and watch fireworks. Serves several million (if satellite feeds are used).- Curtis C.
Consider the following analogy... Death Star : Enterprise :: Chewbacca : Alf
Jared C.
Death Star in 2.01 seconds
- Peter K.
- Eric V.
- Rob S.
Stephen S.
My money's on the Death Star! Against The Good Ship 1701? The Galactica would stand a better chance.
Kirk to Crew: "In honor of our forcoming battle Starfleet has issued us all new uniforms." McCoy to Kirk: "But they're _red_ Jim!" Kirk to Crew: "Oh Bug...."
Menachem P.
- David B.
-B. Maguire
Never underestimate the captain's sexual prowess. I mean, any man who can score with green female aliens has got to have the goods. Remember, Tiberius is Latin for "tripod."
- Kevin F.
FACT: 2 Death Stars have been destroyed in as many movies. 2/2 = loses 100% of the time.
Who has a better resume?
- Shuman G.
- Ivan I.
TOP TEN HIGHLIGHTS OF THE DEATH STAR'S VICTORY OVER THE ENTERPRISE
10. Impact from the Death Star's planet-crushing laser rips the Enterprise's hull, breaks bulkheads, and knocks off Bill Shatner's hairpiece.
9. In the confusion of the battle, Scotty and Chekov swap accents
8. Sulu stands up, crabs his crotch, and screams, "Hey Captain! Plot a course for THIS!"
7. Spock attempts a mind meld with Darth Vader. Is overcome with the urge to narrate television programs and write bad poetry.
6. Kirk panics when he realizes that there won't be any gorgeous alien babes in this episode.
5. Famous McCoy quote: "Dammit Jim, if you mention how you're responsible for the lives of 430 crewmen one more time I'm going to deck you!"
4. Dozens of nameless red-shirted security officers realize that their only hope for survival is to become part of the bridge crew. They storm the bridge and are about to commit mutiny when they are all horribly killed in a bizarre turbolift accident.
3. Lt. Uhura destroys a fleet of incoming Tie fighters by singing into the subspace radio.
2. Majel Barret begins looking for a part on the next spinoff series.
1. The battle ends abruptly and an intergalactic holiday is declared when it is announced that the O.J. Simpson trial is finally over.
- David G.
- Mark S.
- Wasted
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