At the same time, in the rear of the store, a door marked "VIP Secret Entrance" opens. In walks Imelda Marcos, looking for a new funeral ensemble. From across the store Imelda's carefully honed shoe-sensitive eyes spot the same pair of shoes. What perfection! She must have them as well. No other pair will do.
As they both near the pedestal displaying the shoes, their hateful glares lock on each other. They both realize what the other is after. Their jaws tighten and their fists clench. Ordinary men would crumble from their fierce gazes. Only one woman is walking away with these shoes.
So Brian, who ends up with the shoes, and who gets carried out on a stretcher?
Imelda, on the other hand, isn't nearly so desperate. She's already got thousands of pairs of shoes, including scores of pairs appropriate for funerals. And she's been buying away all those years that Leona was locked up; no tension there. The revenue she's received by wheeling her frozen husband around and selling tickets have easily kept her shoe fetish satisfied. The desire simply won't be there. Imelda goes up to Leona expecting a standard cat-fight with the hair-pulling and the gouging and the kicking. Then Leona gives her the Lithuanian Jungle Stomp (tm) that she learned form Bertha, her prison "friend". Marcos never knew what hit her.
STEVE: I think you've misjudged the effect prison will have on Leona. If her cellmate was indeed named "Bertha" then you better expect a vast change in Leona's personality. She has likely become submissive and meek. She will have lost The Rage (tm), and will cower at Imelda's shoe-hoarding gusto.
Obviously, Imelda has to win this one. She's psychotic when it comes to shoes. Nothing will stand in her way -- not her husband, not money, not the well being of the Philippines, and certainly not Leona. Imelda will snarl and start foaming at the mouth. A nervous twitch in her neck will begin to act up, and she will start speaking in tongues. Liked a caged wild animal, Imelda will rip Leona to pieces. Imelda in 15 seconds.
BRIAN: Clearly, it has been a long time since you spent any time in a women's prison because you're analysis is far from reality. I, however, upon viewing countless hours of late night Skinemax (tm) movies as an undergrad, have become an expert on the delicate social intertwinings of female incarceration facilities. If you become submissive and meek in a women's prison, you don't come out alive (I reference you to Wet, Nasty, and Doin' Time (tm)). Obviously, since Leona is before us, she has done what it takes to survive. Not surprising as it is hard to imagine 17 women named "Bertha" being able to make Leona Helmsley submissive, nevermind one. Anyway, Leona learned the hard lessons, hit the weights, and became a big shot in that prison: picking fights, running cigarettes, bribing guards for special privileges, etc. But what was the one privilege she could never attain?
That's right: fashion. She's been grey and drab for years and has become much more than just a little irrational about it. She's looking to accessorize and take names. Those self-defense and assault maneuvers she learned in the prison showers will over-power the ultra-pampered PP (Phillipino Princess) that is Imelda Marcos.
STEVE: I could argue with you for hours over female inmate anthropology, but we'd be getting away from the point. Hard prison time or not, Leona will resort to her instinctual attack modes, not this Lithuanian Jungle Stomp (tm) you mention. (By the way, there's no jungle in Lithuania last time I looked). She will first go for the Eye Gouge (tm). As she dives for Imelda's eyes, she will discover they are protected by glasses made of bulletproof coke-bottle glass. Her attack is useless! Undaunted, she may try for the Cat Scratch (tm). Unfortunately, Club Fed insists that her nails are kept trimmed. As they haven't had time to grow back yet, all Leona manages is a meager Fingertip Nudge (tm). Imelda laughs in Leona's face. "Foolish woman. When it comes to shoes, you cannot defeat me." Hideous laughter ensues, and Imelda brings a knee to Leona's midsection, leaving her doubled over on the floor. Imelda wins easily.
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First, for all your sweaty palmed panting and raving about women's prisons and women's prisons movies (not always the same thing) you failed to realize an important fact. Leona was a WHITE COLLAR CRIMINAL in a federal penitentiary. In this country, all that means is that you have to reserve use of the tennis and racquetball courts in advance. Leona only stole millions of dollars -- she didn't do something serious like steal a nice rich person's cocaine. If so, she would have ended up in a wonderful state prison and all your Bertha fantasies would indeed be a reality. But in a federal prison she got to make lanyards (tm) and grow soft at the taxpayer's expense. What little wits or aggressiveness she had were completely dulled by time in a federal pen.
Imelda, on the other hand, lived her formative years in the jungle. Her husband was a guerilla fighter and a killer, and he never went anywhere without his trusty dragon princess (tm) at his side. While Imelda's senses may have been a bit dulled by the years, she is still a jungle fighter at heart, always ready to pounce on an unsuspecting Fat Arrogant American Bitch (tm) in order to get what she wants. In fact, the pursuit of shoes is simply a case of sublimation -- no longer able or interested in killing, shoes become her prey. While a bit aged and infirm, Imelda is still what she always was. Sort of like a Vietnam vet -- even after all these years you don't want to try and take away a vet's bottle of Boones Farm Ripple (tm, although I have no idea why they bother) in a dark alley. Trust me on that one.
Imelda, feral Third World American hating creature that she is, takes the shoes from Leona's cold, dead fingers.
- Rodney Jackson, Jacksonville, FL
- Jeff Garland
Leona in 30 seconds, with 15 of those seconds going to putting the shoes on her charge card.
- Lonny Zone
- Paul
-Jason
- Rosalind King, University of Michigan
- George@UT
- Thomas Michael DIzikowski, Michigan State University
If it's one on one, nobody questions that Leona would tear Imelda into little strips of Chihuahua food. But this ain't gonna be a fair fight, see. Leona's gonna take the fall if she knows what's good for her, see. And it don't take any genius with a magnifying glass to work out why.
Let me make it clear for you boys, just in case.
You got Leona, and she's mean, rough, no question. But Imelda, she ran the Phillipines from behind her husband's scrawny little back for years. People trying to knock them off right and left. Ferdy wasn't much of a shield, even for Imelda. So how come she's still kicking? She's a politico. Politicos got goon squads. They don't go anywhere without their goons. Hell, in the winter they probably let them curl up on the bed where it's warm, like some folks do with a loyal dog. These boys see Leona going for their master, the hair on the scruff of their necks is gonna prickle and their hands are gonna go into their pockets. Leona, she's been around, even before she went into the pen. She knows that that bulge ain't just beefcake. She knows that the boys like to carry their little friends, Mr. Glock and Mr. Uzi with them when they go strolling. Leona's a smart chickie. She'll take the fall.
- slackman
- Dave Rubini, Illinois
- John Hunter
- Jason Van Horn
- bubble
Leona not only defeats Imelda easily, but breaks both of her feet (multiple compound fractures in every carpal) so that Imelda will never wear normal shoes again. Then, with the crippled Phillipino Shoe Queen(tm) watching helplessly, Leona puts on her battle trophies and struts out of the store.
- Mel Martinez, Johns Hopkins Univeristy
All of your arguments have to do with the notion that Imelda and Leona are going to whack each other around like a couple of testosterone-driven bull moose in rutting season...Gentlemen, these are COWS we are talking about. They are going to fight like cows. Get with the program, people!
What's going to happen is that Leona and Imelda are first going to spy each other and feign that they've been lifelong friends (or have always wanted to be). They're going to be really pumped to get those pumps, so it's REALLY gonna be spectacular even by girl standards...they'll shriek gleefully "OHHHHHH HIIIII BABY!!!" so loud and rush at each other with open arms so wide that it'll make WAITING TO EXHALE look like the cat fight you men THINK is going to happen...but isn't... Every woman in the store who sees this will turn and run like a herd of gazelle fleeing from a waterhole in the Serengeti...because they know what's gonna go down...
The whole thing you have to consider, is which one of them can be the biggest bitch while acting the nicest and sweetest, which one of them is going to psyche the other one out. You say Leona? HAH. Leona may be tough, she may be a bitch, but a) she's been in jail the last few years or whatever, and she has been away from the high stakes world of subtle bitchery, hanging around Berthas who use four-letter words. That's NOWHERE. So wow, she can make some scatalogical reference to Imelda's cup size. Big deal. She tries that, Imelda will just gracefully toss her well-coiffed head and exercise the years' worth of Head-O-State charm and protocol she's had to use in hubby's court, and shrug it off. You don't think Imelda has had her breasts insulted by every rebel newspaper in Manila during her husband's reign? Honestly. Besides, Imelda knows she is much better looking than Cory Aquino. She's had to ask herself that question ever since the people's revolution, she's had to find a way to be able to look in the mirror every morning and still believe she's the fairest of them all despite being thrown out of the palace on her ass. I think Imelda can handle whatever Cell Block H can throw at her.
But even if she isn't, let's get right down to brass tacks: in the end, these 2 are so well matched in the bitch department, what will be the deciding factor is who can make the biggest scene in the most subtle way. Gentlemen, have you ever seen Leona cry in public? Of course not. Of course not. That's because she's always tried to fit herself into a man's world, and Big Girls Don't Cry. Whereas Imelda Marcos, on the other hand, is an old hand at crying in public in order to try and get what she wants -- you've seen her zillions of times. (And how the hell do you think she got all those shoes from Ferdinand in the first place? Do you think that a guy who could rule an entire country with an iron fist for decades wouldn't be able to realize how SILLY and EMBARRASSING she is with all those shoes in her closet, unless she had a secret weapon?)
What's going to happen is that eventually Imelda is going to start crying in that irritating, high-pitched squeaky accent and don't you know, there goes her mascara until she does Tammy Faye proud. Leona is not going to be able to handle this (for the reasons stated above - in prison for years, sheltered from crying women, not to mention her years in the board room among emotionally repressed men) and will be totally unnerved (if the tears don't do it, that voice will!) because it'a against her nature to be connected with "a scene" and believe you me, that's what Imelda is going to make. In the end, Leona will BUY Imelda the shoes. (Also the emerald encrusted open-toe spikes in the next aisle.) Trust me. Then they're going to do the Russian Tea Room and talk about hot flashes. Imelda wins. The end.
- Screaming Yellow Zonkers, Syracuse University
- Steven DeVries
- Julia Hendricks-Mueller
However, since her exile and Offical Expatriate Pariah-hood, Imelda has been hanging out a lot on U.S. soil. Assuming this fight is to be arranged by a North American promoter, I imagine Leona will have the advantage in terms of venue, and will eventually emerge as the victor.
Wasting the company dime,
- Will Enestvedt
- jeff
- MCV
RuPaul vs. Imelda, now *that* would have been something. Course the same pair would never fit both, so I guess it's a moot point, but I digress.
-Michele
Leona is famous as the head harridan/slave driver at the Helmsley House (tm) in New York, NY (so full of vice, they warned you twice). Her outbursts at her slave-wage peons over minor incidents are world-famous. Heaven help anyone ticking her off in a major way. If she doesn't go critical and implode with fury, she could throw an Atomic Hissy Fit (tm) that would make the 101st Airborne reconsider a frontal assault.
On the other hand, Imelda was the wife of, and co-tyrant with, an oriental dictator of unlimited authority. She knows some evil things that can be done to humans. Anyone who can see the economic conditions in the Phillipines and spend her time and money amassing shoes and giving parties is totally devoid of human emotion. And she will want to complete her collection of every known style of female shoe, in every material. And since she finally got that pair of Kosher shoes from the Himmler Collection, this fetus-leather pair will fit right in the collection.
I think the prison training will help Leona a lot, but an Atomic Hissy Fit (tm), while awesome to observe and dangerous to approach too closely, cannot outlast the extended horror that is lifetime tyranture.
Particularly since Imelda will have four Estate-Paid Phillipino Death Goons (rm) with her who will become hunted, unemployed, former Death Goons heading back to certain assassination in the Islands if anything happens to her. A critically injured Imelda and two surviving Death Goons over Leona in 20 ear-splitting minutes.
- Xxact, Inc.
After this a burst of offscreen laughter would ensue, both women would be reduced to cameo parts on the show, and the plot would shift to Kramer buying the shoes for his aunt and Elaine trying to borrow them for a date she has with the president of Exxon.
Kramer in 9.7 minutes.
- Benjamin Bretz, Sunny 106.9, Reno NV
- lynnmh
- Flapjack, Vassar College, Poughkeepsie, NY
On the face of it, this is a mismatch. In one corner we have Leona, a woman who would not hesitate to rip the heart out of a fellow human who just happened to be unable to afford a gold plated commode. In the other is a woman who spent the majority of her life being a meek and pretty tumor attached to her powerful husband. Yes, the Congresswoman has recently flexed her "muscle" and entered the public stage in spite of a grafting conviction in 1993. However, everyone knows this is a farcical situation that could only occur in the Philippines. Hence we rule out the possibility that Congresswoman Marcos could stand up to a penitentiary hardened despicable despot.
The battle begins and is truly one sided as Leona rips into the Congresswoman. However, we can not forget the fury of Ferdinand. You may recall Imelda's proclamation that his spirit was responsible for summoning hurricane Andrew and the ensuing devastation. All because he wasn't given a proper burial. He still hasn't received that proper burial and his spirit is still restless! Ferdinand once again summons the power of mother nature in defense of his helpless wife. Leona is whisked away to find herself flat out on a yellow brick road, surrounded by a bunch of munchkins. Congresswoman Marcos cleans off her blood, tidies her hair, and walks away in a brand new pair of Gioretties.
- Dr. Joe
- THECATDOG
I also heard that Leona studied some ancient monk stuff that allowes her to shoot ice-cicles out of her eyes. Serious. Wouldn't be much of a fight. I don't even think Imadela's hair bun could save her.
- bill dolan
- cmacleod, Presbyterian College, Clinton, SC
- CompuServer (tm)
Score 2 shooz for Imelda, 1 shiner for Helmsley, and let's throw in a few bullet riddled attorneys (Helmsley's entourage, taken out by the Secret Service as they make the getaway).
- Dave
- Meinkmpf
- David G. Hughey
- Ed, University of Illinois Urbana-Champagne
Victory and defeat in evenly contested matches, such as this one, are always decided by fan support. With the crowd firmly behind their champion, the pure adrenaline and willpower it creates devastes any opponent. And since this battle is in the United States, the crowd will be firmly behind Leona. Why? Because Americans always boo the foreigner. It doesn't matter if they are "Iran #1, Russia #1, USA *spit*" Iron Shiek and Nikoli Volkoff, British snot Lord Steven Regal or our misguided neighbor to the north The Mountie. Chants of "U-S-A, U-S-A" will echo throughout the store. To make matters worse, Philippinos look too much like "Remember Pearl Harbor" Japanese for some of the older onlookers. Expect Leona to do her best impression of Hulkamania (tm) all over Imelda's face with outside help from former WWII veterans.
LEONAMANIA IS RUNNING WILD!
- Paul Golba
Imelda on the other hand is SHOE FREAK. the amount of shoes she already
has makes no difference to her. she WANTS those shoes. she NEEDS those
shoes. besides youre over looking one main important fact..imelda is still
sometimes surrounded by secret service agents.she doesnt need to fight
leona...our taxpayer dollars pay for that. Just in case she is alone well
then shes probably wearing a nice high heel with which shell put through
leonas heart
- Hecubus
-Joshua Nelson
With so much attention focused to the shoes of the fighters (and
they, too, will be keeping their eyes at foot level), not much has been
made of another key to this Battle Royale (R) -- the Hair Factor (msg).
While both have hair that would appear to have been made by dark/gray
plaster artisans from the south of France, Leona has the "Big Hair" edge,
a kind of Ivana-Trump-Wannabe puff that will allow her to hide brass
knuckles, a knife, heel replacements, a fleet of bodyguards, etc. to
pummel the DKNY out of poor Imelda.
The prison rage (tm) does come in under this case because it will
have been behind bars that Leona would have learned to smuggle such
lethal items (and a pack of Camels to boot) in her crime coif.
Leona in 3 rounds with a manicure between the 2nd and 3rd.
- Omar L. Gallaga
- Fredolph S. Bing
Do either of you REALLY think that sort of home life wouldn't rub off on
Imelda? Get real . . . I say the Filipino Phee-nom(tm) will squash old
Leona like a hotel kitchen cockroach -- most likely, without getting a
carefully-coiffed hair out of place -- within ten seconds of the
opening bell. God knows, I'd love to root for a contender out of our own
U.S. of A., but you've gotta face the facts.
- Mark Albright
- Walter Chomow
Imelda, on the other hand, has ruthlessly ruled a country, survived at
least 5 coups and has learned to get what she wants. Notice which "criminal"
is in jail ... not Imelda.
No the fight will not happen. At the last moment, the US government will
send in the troops to once again bail her out. Some sunglass clad CIA
operative will step in and remove the shoes when no one is looking, the Army
will sweep Leona up and whisk her away on and Air Force jet to a Navy ship
full of sailors for a cruise around the world.
- Kurt Eibell
- Joshua Nelson, Indiana State University
With so much attention focused to the shoes of the fighters (and they,
too, will be keeping their eyes at foot level), not much has been made of
another key to this Battle Royale (R) -- the Hair Factor (msg).
While both have hair that would appear to have been made by dark/gray
plaster artisans from the south of France, Leona has the "Big Hair" edge,
a kind of Ivana-Trump-Wannabe puff that will allow her to hide brass
knuckles, a knife, heel replacements, a fleet of bodyguards, etc. to
pummel the DKNY out of poor Imelda.
The prison rage (tm) does come in under this case because it will
have been behind bars that Leona would have learned to smuggle such
lethal items (and a pack of Camels to boot) in her crime coif.
Leona in 3 rounds with a manicure between the 2nd and 3rd.
- Omar L. Gallaga, University of Oklahoma
Imelda, on the other hand, has ruthlessly ruled a country, survived at
least 5 coups and has learned to get what she wants. Notice which
"criminal" is in jail ... not Imelda.
No the fight will not happen. At the last moment, the US government
will send in the troops to once again bail her out. Some sunglass clad
CIA operative will step in and remove the shoes when no one is looking,
the Army will sweep Leona up and whisk her away on and Air Force jet to a
Navy ship full of sailors for a cruise around the world.
- Kurt Eibell
- Frank Weil
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Ironically, comfortable but definately out of style shoes will be the
difference in this epic battle. While Imelda will being wearing her
fashionable high heeled shoes, Leona will still be wearing her prison
loafers. Leona will get to the contested shoes first, and plant a high
heel in Imelda's head ala Jennifer Jason Leigh in Single White Female.
Though Leona emerges victorious, the shoes will be of no use to her
because of the blood stains, which are just so passe!
In the world of catfights, this is indeed a battle of panther versus
tiger -- a knock-down all-out fight for the title of True Affrontery to
the World of Fashion (tm)!
a savage battle of third world guile and cosmopolitan brass. I
wouldn't touch this bet with a cattle prod, tho I wouldn't mind blasting
either contestant with a tazer.
While there's a good deal to be said for Leona's years of experience in
browbeating legions of carpethugging minimum-wage service beetles, I just
don't see how we can overlook Imelda's earn-while-you-learn dictatorship
background. Her late husband, now frozen stiff (with precious little
noticeable change from his facial expression in life, I might add), set a
nearly unparalleled record of disregard for human life or dignity during
his term in "office.".
Definitely got to give this one to Leona simply because she's
the more gritty of the two--plus she has been in the business for
years. Don't count Imelda out though, like any collector nothing
will get in the way to acheive the prize-in this case pumps. And
after all, Imelda probably could use a good pump nowadays.
I'm sorry, I don't buy into the belief that Leona Helmsly is in a "Hard
Core" women's prison working out with the "Incarcerated Lesbian Biker Babes"
(tm). More like she is sitting on her butt behind a 200Mhz P6 with 64meg of
RAM, 4gig hard drive, and T1 access to the "net" (tm), (purchased with our
tax money), writing her next book and surfing the net for people using her
name for fun and profit!
Ironically, comfortable but definately out of style shoes will be the
difference in this epic battle. While Imelda will be wearing her
fashionable high heeled shoes, Leona will still be wearing her prison
loafers. Leona will get to the contested shoes first, and plant a high
heel in Imelda's head ala Jennifer Jason Leigh in Single White Female.
Though Leona emerges victorious, the shoes will be of no use to her
because of the blood stains, which are just so passe!
In the world of catfights, this is indeed a battle of panther versus tiger
-- a knock-down all-out fight for the title of True Affrontery to the
World of Fashion (tm)!
I'm sorry, I don't buy into the belief that Leona Helmsly is in a "Hard
Core" women's prison working out with the "Incarcerated Lesbian Biker
Babes" (tm). More like she is sitting on her butt behind a 200Mhz P6 with
64meg of RAM, 4gig hard drive, and T1 access to the "net" (tm), (purchased
with our tax money), writing her next book and surfing the net for people
using her name for fun and profit! (Uh-oh -Eds.)
There's doubt in my mind as to whether Leona has always been a woman.
Combine that with a prison term and Leona is a Testosterone Volcano
waiting to blow!
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